NOTs Ordering FAQ?

Chris Owen, Dave Bird, August 1998

From: chris_owen@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: NOTs Ordering FAQ?
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 09:01:50 GMT
Message-ID: <6rolpt$lks$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>

Here's the basic details of how I got my copy of the NOTS.  I should add that
I got them in person, by actually walking into the Justice Ministry in
Stockholm and asking for a copy.  The cost was SEK400 (presumably the extra
SEK200 mentioned in Zenon's FAQ covers administrative and postage costs -
there are about 200 pages in all, so it's a substantial package.)  The
address is:

Justitiedepartmentet
SE-103 17 Stockholm
Sweden

and the document number is 96/3523.  I simply asked for the
"Scientologibibeln"  (Scientology Bible), which is how it's universally been
referred to by the media here - they knew straight away what I was after and
fetched me one of a stack of pre-copied NOTS packs.  I don't think they take
credit cards, as they asked specifically for cash.  It should be possible to
get Swedish kroner in the US (surely?); if you do send cash, the best way to
send it is to put it between two layers of opaque card taped together inside
an envelope, and enclose a covering letter.

I gather that the Justice Department is the best place to get hold of a copy
of the NOTS; the Scientologists are constantly sitting on the copy in the
State Archives, and the Parliamentary Library is only open at certain times
of the year (e.g. not during midsummer).  As I said, they apparently have a
pile of copies ready to hand, so the turnaround time should be minimal.

The only non-NOTS documents included with the pack are your receipt and a
Swedish-language covering minute.  I can't read Swedish so I can't tell you
what it says, but I assume it's just a standard form stating that the
document comes from the state archives and is being made available under the
offentlighetsprincip (open government) rules.

I haven't had flu yet, but in my time in Sweden I've been bitten by
mosquitoes, sunburnt, blistered and had minced reindeer meat dropped on me. 
Oh yes, and I stubbed my toe once as well.  Does any of that count?  :-)

- Chris Owen

> On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:32:33 GMT, xenu666@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> >In article <35da9387.10819402@enews.newsguy.com>,
> >  teddy@skylink.net (Ted Mayett (KOX)) wrote:
> >
> >> I believe I have these two items, from Sweden.
> >
> >I've seen Zenon's instructions for getting the NOTs from Sweden (at
> >http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d1dd/cos/pan27.html), but it leaves some
> >questions unanswered. Since Zenon states "no mistakes allowed" I want to be
> >sure to get it right. Perhaps you could answer some of the following
> >questions. Perhaps there needs to be a NOTs ordering FAQ for Americans, with
> >the answer to the following questions.
> >
> >The price given is SEK 680 (correct?) but how does an American pay?
> >Can one buy a money order for SEK in a US bank? I don't want to send
> >cash through the mail (either US $ or SEK) and it seems wrong to send a
> >US $ check.  What did you do? Do they take credit cards? :-)
> >
> >How long is the response time?
> >
> >Are any of the three addresses given still valid (I heard one department
> >is no longer giving the NOTs out from appeal but the others are, but I
> >forget which one.)
> >
> >What items are included besides the NOTs themselves?
> >
> >-x
> >
> >Any flu-like symptoms since their arrival? :-)


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From: Dave Bird---St Hippo of Augustine <dave@xemu.demon.co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,nl.scientology
Subject: Re: NOTs Ordering FAQ?
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 20:14:45 +0100
Message-ID: <DgpkWKCl6F51Ew3B@xemu.demon.co.uk>

In article <6rvi90$f1e$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, jdrake_deja@my-
dejanews.com writes
>
>> >I've seen Zenon's instructions for getting the NOTs from Sweden (at
>> >http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d1dd/cos/pan27.html), but it leaves some
>> >questions unanswered. Since Zenon states "no mistakes allowed" I want to be
>> >sure to get it right. Perhaps you could answer some of the following
>> >questions. Perhaps there needs to be a NOTs ordering FAQ for Americans, with
>> >the answer to the following questions.
>> >
>> >The price given is SEK 680 (correct?) but how does an American pay?
>> >Can one buy a money order for SEK in a US bank?
>
>Here is the question: When I order the document, must I include CASH, or is an
>INTERNATIONAL MONEY ORDER sufficient?

  CASH, IN SWEDISH KRONER, STRONGLY ADVISED.  You do not want to do
  *anything* to give them extra processing costs or difficulties at
  the far end, which may cause them to throw the request away.


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